Comments on: GCE “Sabbath Services” — Not ‘95 at all. More Like ‘34.

By: Charlie

Charlie — Fri, 08 May 2009 10:16:51 +0000

Ditto what incredulous wrote.

By: AggieAtheist

AggieAtheist — Thu, 07 May 2009 22:15:19 +0000

Hmm, well if it was a ‘95 in that case, they would probably just devolve into one of the stricter splinters, unfortunately. Be careful what you wish for, Bob.

By: Byker Bob

Byker Bob — Thu, 07 May 2009 22:12:35 +0000

Heh. Unfortunately, we’re talking about elders here. They’ve got a lot of reasons not to leave. That’s why I was hoping for a total 1995!

By: AggieAtheist

AggieAtheist — Thu, 07 May 2009 16:00:09 +0000

I’m sorry about your family Bob, that sucks. You never know, though; all of us made it out of “the one true church”, regardless of where we ended up.

By: AggieAtheist

AggieAtheist — Thu, 07 May 2009 15:56:11 +0000

Meh, I’m past the point where the shit spooks me. I’m just depressed that the “winds of change” rumour turned out to be absolutely unfounded. I would disagree that they’ve changed for the worse, however; after sitting through that hour and a half glimpse into the parallel universe I was born in, I can definitively say they haven’t changed at all.

Which is, I guess, rather the point. For the tithe slaves anyway.

By: Byker Bob

Byker Bob — Thu, 07 May 2009 13:13:23 +0000

The good news is indeed the size, Aggie. 10-11,000 is miniscule. They have been totally marginalized by this, and we have to remember that this is the big splinter!

When you consider the fact that United’s 10,000 are spread out all across North America, how much influence could they possibly have?

This was an interesting walk down memory lane, and I am positive that it has given all of us a deeper appreciation for our current mindset and circumstances.

I’m always optimistic about family, and basic kinship issues. It would be nice if some day our family could be restored to the wonderful condition that it was in prior to the introduction of Armstrongism. I can’t see that as being even remotely possible so long as some of our relatives are caught up in the cultic mindset. It seems like all of the splinters are under the control of hardliners, so that’s not going to happen.

By: Incredulous

Incredulous — Thu, 07 May 2009 11:36:51 +0000

Man, talk about Deja Vu! How hard it must have been for you to listen to that shit – it was hard for me to read it. I could hear the voices and the “music” in my head. I felt such feelings of revulsion at the arrogance and brain-washing tactics, insinuations, etc. Ugh! Nope, they haven’t changed a bit for the better, only for the worse.

By: AggieAtheist

AggieAtheist — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:48:00 +0000

Yep. The saddest part is, they are deluded in exactly the same way they were deluded before. All those splinter-hoppers looking for “god’s true church”?? Right here, yo. Nothing, nothing, NOTHING has changed as far as UCG is concerned.

Well, except the size, which is a positive thing. Hopefully they will continue to get smaller and smaller, and will eventually devolve into nothingness.

I have to wonder, though, at Russell’s “source” who started all this —- I didn’t hear Dick say a single thing that even REMOTELY suggested that they believe there are Christians in other churches; his whole spiel was “Gawd’s Troooth is so great, they’re ON OUR TURF.” (He actually said “on our turf”, BTW.) Cue the “we let our godly LIVES evangelize, brethren,” and I’m telling you, United IS “the church”, at least it’s a carbon copy of the church I remember. It’s eerie, how much of the parallel universe has actually survived…..Eerie, and depressing.

By: AggieAtheist

AggieAtheist — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:42:23 +0000

Sorry, Mike. As I said to Bob, the most compelling reason I can see for staying in United would be because nothing changed. Matter of fact, if circumstances had been different, I would probably be in United myself right now…….

By: AggieAtheist

AggieAtheist — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:40:51 +0000

Sorry Bob. It’s like time stood still. They’re even following the “dress 10 to 15 years behind the fashions” dictate of the “Get the church back on TRACK!” era. If it’s any consolation, your family member in United is probably there only because it is exactly the church that existed pre-Tkach “reformation”.

As I have pointed out repeatedly, what would posses people to think this is a good thing??